[therebel19]

I'm sure it has already been covered, but I can confirm that RMAX2 wheel/tires fit the RMAX4. I got a deal on a set of take offs from a '22 LE and put them on my XTR; a little bright for my personal taste, but I like a square setup.

That's what I want to do is fine someone selling their RMAX2 set so I can do a square setup on my RMAX 4.

 

[txav8r]

Travis, did you add any spacer to the rear?

 

[KeithStone76]

That's what I want to do is fine someone selling their RMAX2 set so I can do a square setup on my RMAX 4.

I'll sell you my brand new Rmax 2 sport. Anything is for sale. [emoji846]

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[therebel19]

LOL the 4 seater is all I need or can afford for now.

 

[RMAX4_Travis]

Travis, did you add any spacer to the rear?

I did not, I swapped them last night and didnt get a chance to run a tape to see how different the rears tracked compared to the front. Eyeball doesn’t look off, but I’m sure it is.

 

[xcat]

OK,
this thread is doing my head in.
I am still awaiting my Rmax4 so basing everything on this forum.
this is what i wish to achieve
Square set up ,
I do not need wider - very happy to keep same track,
I do not really need bigger tyres. I would be happy with up to 30" tyres.
I wish to have stronger side walls for our harsh driving in hardwood timber to try and prevent side wall punchers.

so if have got this correct this is what I need to find in our limited supply chains over here.
rims 14x7 5+2 ( 38mm off set )
tyre BF KM3 ( or similar ) 30x10r14
no wheel spacer required ?

thanks in advance

 

[Budro2]

OK,
this thread is doing my head in.
I am still awaiting my Rmax4 so basing everything on this forum.
this is what i wish to achieve
Square set up ,
I do not need wider - very happy to keep same track,
I do not really need bigger tyres. I would be happy with up to 30" tyres.
I wish to have stronger side walls for our harsh driving in hardwood timber to try and prevent side wall punchers.

so if have got this correct this is what I need to find in our limited supply chains over here.
rims 14x7 5+2 ( 38mm off set )
tyre BF KM3 ( or similar ) 30x10r14
no wheel spacer required ?

thanks in advance

It’s not mandatory but you will need wheel spacers on the rear of the four seater if you want the back width to match the front width, otherwise it will be a bit narrower in the rear.

People do it either way. Personal preference!

 

[txav8r]

Xcat, most of the need to use spacers in my newbie understanding, is to provide clearance when a change is made. However, what your wanting will fit just fine. It isn’t clearance that may be an issue, but rather ride. Yamaha spent time to make sure this machine was superior to other makes out there. When I make a change, I’m more concerned about making that worse. When I tried to get an rmax2 pull off for my RMAX4, my concern was the rear wheel stance being narrower. That could have a detrimental ride effect. Because we already have a short wheel base when loaded with 4 occupants. Narrowing it in the rear could cause other issues. Like I said, I’m a noob, but I know I have a great riding and handling machine, I just want it to stay that way as I improve things. It could be that putting a taller, narrower rear tire on, will require widening the stance to overcome balance issues, but maybe not. Plenty of guys here to report their findings, and glad we have the membership!

 

[xcat]

It’s not mandatory but you will need wheel spacers on the rear of the four seater if you want the back width to match the front width, otherwise it will be a bit narrower in the rear.

People do it either way. Personal preference!

Thanks Budro from reading there was only a .5" difference narrower - is that correct ?

 

[Budro2]

Thanks Budro from reading there was only a .5" difference narrower - is that correct ?

I honestly don’t recall the difference.
I know some said it’s not enough to matter. Others said they actually wanted it a bit wider in the rear for stability.
Strictly personal preference. You could certainly just go without them and then actually measure the difference. If it’s visually displeasing to you, then you could get the appropriate spacers after the fact.
Personally I couldn’t deal with the narrower look on the rear of my old Gen 1 and used 1” spacers to match it. That said, I would want the least amount of spacer possible to lessen the leverage they can apply to the wheel bearings and knuckle bushings over the long haul.
Also, in theory, being wider on the rear will make the front end push in the corners but I doubt 1” wider overall would really be noticeable!

 

[xcat]

I honestly don’t recall the difference.
I know some said it’s not enough to matter. Others said they actually wanted it a bit wider in the rear for stability.
Strictly personal preference. You could certainly just go without them and then actually measure the difference. If it’s visually displeasing to you, then you could get the appropriate spacers after the fact.
Personally I couldn’t deal with the narrower look on the rear of my old Gen 1 and used 1” spacers to match it. That said, I would want the least amount of spacer possible to lessen the leverage they can apply to the wheel bearings and knuckle bushings over the long haul.
Also, in theory, being wider on the rear will make the front end push in the corners but I doubt 1” wider overall would really be noticeable!

thanks, i am with you dont need extra load on the running gear, we dont do much high speed running so not really worried about the high speed handling..

also the rims would positive OR negative 38 ?? my guess is pos
so far i am unable to find a supplier over here with rims

 

[Budro2]

thanks, i am with you dont need extra load on the running gear, we dont do much high speed running so not really worried about the high speed handling..

also the rims would positive OR negative 38 ?? my guess is pos
so far i am unable to find a supplier over here with rims

Yes they are a positive offset.
5” inside 2” outside of center.
The higher the positive number is, the more the wheel will be tucked in.

 

[Stormking]

I been thinking of upgrading to a 4x3 offset and 32-31" tires. Maybe a 15" wheel. Running 4x3 and 1" rear spacer would increase width to aprox 67-68" total width I think. Stability is great for off camber especially with taller tire added.

 

[DirtRoadWarrior]

I been thinking of upgrading to a 4x3 offset and 32-31" tires. Maybe a 15" wheel. Running 4x3 and 1" rear spacer would increase width to aprox 67-68" total width I think. Stability is great for off camber especially with taller tire added.

Use this Wheel Calculator to help find what works for you.

 

[Mass-n-Trash]

OK,
this thread is doing my head in.
I am still awaiting my Rmax4 so basing everything on this forum.
this is what i wish to achieve
Square set up ,
I do not need wider - very happy to keep same track,
I do not really need bigger tyres. I would be happy with up to 30" tyres.
I wish to have stronger side walls for our harsh driving in hardwood timber to try and prevent side wall punchers.

so if have got this correct this is what I need to find in our limited supply chains over here.
rims 14x7 5+2 ( 38mm off set )
tyre BF KM3 ( or similar ) 30x10r14
no wheel spacer required ?

thanks in advance

Squared up with a 5+2 offset looks great. Your naked eye will tell you it is indeed square. The tape will tell you the rear is 1/2" ish narrower. I'm not sure they even make 1/2" spacers...and if you add a 1" spacer, you are going to be 1/2"ish wider in the rear. Bolt 'em on and ride...don't over think it.

 

[Budro2]

Squared up with a 5+2 offset looks great. Your naked eye will tell you it is indeed square. The tape will tell you the rear is 1/2" ish narrower. I'm not sure they even make 1/2" spacers...and if you add a 1" spacer, you are going to be 1/2"ish wider in the rear. Bolt 'em on and ride...don't over think it.

Sounds good to me.
Some had used 1.5” spacers which I had thought meant it was much narrower behind.
If that’s all the difference it is I wouldn’t use spacers either.

 

[xcat]

Squared up with a 5+2 offset looks great. Your naked eye will tell you it is indeed square. The tape will tell you the rear is 1/2" ish narrower. I'm not sure they even make 1/2" spacers...and if you add a 1" spacer, you are going to be 1/2"ish wider in the rear. Bolt 'em on and ride...don't over think it.

thanks M n T for reconfirming it and putting it that way.
just need to find some rims over here. i have plenty of time so will start searching
thanks all

 

[xcat]

so in my search for rims, I have only one brand available in Australia and that is 4x156 14x7 in p38 offset and that is brand Raceline.

the manufacturer catalogue does not list Rmax, they claim " Sounds like the same fitment as a Polaris 4/156 "
so can anyone confirm this before i look further.
cheers

 

[Budro2]

so in my search for rims, I have only one brand available in Australia and that is 4x156 14x7 in p38 offset and that is brand Raceline.

the manufacturer catalogue does not list Rmax, they claim " Sounds like the same fitment as a Polaris 4/156 "
so can anyone confirm this before i look further.
cheers

It will work just the same.
The issue you will run into is the lugnuts.
Polaris uses a 12mm stud with1.5 thread pitch.
Yamaha Rmax is a 12mm 1.25thread pitch.
If you order it as listed with lugnuts for a Polaris you will receive the wrong lugnuts so hopefully you can sort that out at order time.

 

[xcat]

It will work just the same.
The issue you will run into is the lugnuts.
Polaris uses a 12mm stud with1.5 thread pitch.
Yamaha Rmax is a 12mm 1.25thread pitch.
If you order it as listed with lugnuts for a Polaris you will receive the wrong lugnuts so hopefully you can sort that out at order time.

Thanks Burdo2
yes i am aware of the thread pitch difference and already have the part numbers for correct wheel nuts - or lug nuts as you guys call them !
for ref the part numbers are
RLUG-CS19B 16pk 12x1.25 spline blk cs pack
RLUG-CS19C 16pk 12x1.25 spline cr cs pack
The part number ending with B is Black.
C is Chrome.

i was more concerned that the wheel to brake caliper clearance would be ok