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Yamaha RMAX 1000 on the Rubicon Trail

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What did I learn from the Rubicon?

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I've spent more money on scripted entertainment venues and didn't get 1/10th the enjoyment that I did riding The Rubicon.

Last of my personal footage. Longest video out of the series, but the best one to appreciate the magnitude and perspective of the obstacles we had to traverse on the Rubicon Trail


Rear chase footage. Enjoy the scenery and the perspective of the front suspension working on the RMAX4. I had to edit a lot of this out unfortunately so it's only an hour (I'm sure many are gratefull) , but you all should have a pretty good idea if you've been patient enough to watch my other Rubicon vids to the end.


A little shorter video leaving camp and heading back out of The Rubicon


1.75 hours of awesomeness. Play it at 8X speed if you want. You just can't condense the Epicness of the Rubicon into a 5 minute video. This is the cab camera. I thought about doing PIP but it's just too hard to synchronize the footage and it's also a little distracting The wheel well footage video is even longer


Rubicon Trail Romeo glamour shots. Thanks to Joe for the awesome footage. Joe and Dave (the photographer), along with much of the other magazine/freelance journalists got a real workout running back and forth getting footage along with the Yamaha team who also did a lot of walking for spotting us. Bill and I had it pretty easy.




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Just finished up a 2 day event with Yamaha on the Rubicon Trail, piloting an RMAX4 along with 11 other units and spending the week with some very awesome company. Just some teaser shots of what's to follow. You will be amazed as I was what a stock RMAX is capable of with only skids and rock sliders added for protection and the RMAX4's given 30" tires. Sway bars still hooked up and the only damage were some scrapes and 2 bent tie rods (for the whole group). I'm going to put to rest concerns of CV axles as I was in full diff lock for at least a 3rd of the ride through some of nastiest terrain I've ever ridden. Posting this from the airport, be home soon.

I'll follow up with my monologue later as I've rewritten it 3 times and FB or God doesn't want me to do it right now and it was deleted so I'll just show you the quick-edit version of my ride in the Yamaha RMAX 1000 on the Rubicon Trail. Stay tuned for the following video as this one doesn't cover half of the awesome sections of the Rubicon.



This is why FB deleted my written monologue. I can't thank Yamaha Outdoors enough:



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Pictures from the trip:
 
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I too have a lot of time in diff lock at full lock and full compression, extension with sway bar disconnected as well. So far zero issues so it’s not a matter a cv joint bind. You can’t flex one beyond what I’ve put mine through either.
Looking forward to some vids!
 
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Thats awesome man!!! Cool shit right there!!! Looks like an amazing time.👍👍👍
 
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Looking forward to seeing the VID! Looks like a good time for sure.
 
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Shouldn't those Rmax's be on showroom floors...? ;)

Those don't look like stock tires and rims. Bring us back the inside scoop.

Inquiring minds need to know.
 
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Shouldn't those Rmax's be on showroom floors...? ;)

Those don't look like stock tires and rims. Bring us back the inside scoop.

Inquiring minds need to know.
4 vehicles had bead locks while the other 8 had stock RMAX2 LE wheels and tires.
 
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...RMAX4 along with 11 other units... only damage were some scrapes and 2 bent tie rods (for the whole group)...
That's an impressive statement.

4 vehicles had bead locks while the other 8 had stock RMAX2 LE wheels and tires.
So stock LE's are Carnivores right, then the Yamaha offered EFX MotoHammer beadlock kit... was there any points where either tire stood out vs the other?

Were the IQS shocks a big benefit on that type of trail, we don't even get the option of them in Canada so wondering how much we're missing, or are they most valuable to high speed riders who would be switching in and out throughout the day?
 
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Following.
 
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Thanks Dan. I thought I clicked on it, but guess not 🤔
 
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I'll follow up with my monologue later as I've rewritten it 3 times and FB or God doesn't want me to do it right now and it was deleted so I'll just show you the quick-edit version of my ride in the Yamaha RMAX 1000 on the Rubicon Trail. Stay tuned for the following video as this one doesn't cover half of the awesome sections of the Rubicon.

 
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I'll follow up with my monologue later as I've rewritten it 3 times and FB or God doesn't want me to do it right now and it was deleted so I'll just show you the quick-edit version of my ride in the Yamaha RMAX 1000 on the Rubicon Trail. Stay tuned for the following video as this one doesn't cover half of the awesome sections of the Rubicon.

Awesome video man!!
 
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There was a lot of off-camber stuff and many times the lines chosen were so that you were being setup for the obstacle immediately following.........sometimes........many times the photos and even the video perspective doesn't show it.
 
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This is why FB deleted my written monologue. I can't thank Yamaha Outdoors enough:

 
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I don't think so. We did Big Sleuth and I hear Old Sleuth is tougher, but I don't know of any more.
 
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If you've never used a spotter before as I have, it's an uneasy feeling at first. You're not looking at the ground/terrain as you normally would but looking straight at him and depending on him to be your eyes.
 
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Pictures from the trip:
 
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I didn't drive mine like it was a rental. I mean I knew it was going to get beat up underneath, but that's why it had all the protection added on like the UHMW skids, bash plate, and rock sliders. It's set up very much like my personal RMAX4. The first day I barely used diff lock and had to be told to. After I got over my false fear of breaking an axle, the second day I used diff lock most of the ride. My follow up videos will cover this.

You'll notice that I only stomp the throttle where momentum is needed to get over an obstacle and never do I WOT stomp it. You'll see I bump the throttle to get over the first 'step', then bump it again to get over the next one. Rarely do I power it up all the way. No one wants to face the shame of gimping a machine, forcing a extended delay for everyone or possible tow out. Now that I've seen how easy it is to change a tie rod, I have no fear of that happening and have one ordered as a spare (should have ordered 2).

If you follow me or my groups on FB you'll see that my RMAX is always washed and waxed and if you happen to catch me with it muddy..........take a picture. I'm warming up to the fact that if I'm going to do CAMP 5 that I may get my rock sliders beat up and that I'll have some bead lock rings get beat up and will wear them as badges of honor if that does happen, but I'm still going to try to avoid it. I think maybe 1 or 2 units in the group had minor body work scrapes and no fenders were ripped off. I would remove center wheel caps if you know you're going rock crawling if they're not low-profile.

Throttle is your enemy in a situation where you're in a bind. It's how things get broke/bent. You need to pick a different line, use a spotter, or simply back off and try again, or admit failure and pull out the winch line if necessary. We didn't have to winch one vehicle. Get rid of the Just Send It!!! attitudes and you'll just likely get through unscathed.
 
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A friend of mine was on that ride. He said it took all day to go 14 mi. I see why.
 
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Lets talk tie rods. Other than terrain, what was the most significate contributor to them failing? Diff lock? driver input? poor design? I know Yamaha reads these threads, but inquiring minds need to know...the truth. We all know that after market tie rods are usually beefier than stock. Going with 32" tires will only amplify this failure. Thanks for your input.
 
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Physics. Going at speed and hitting an object where the suspension can't absorb it so the tie rod now takes whatever shock or load your suspension couldn't. Getting into a situation where your steering input is telling you: 'I am making the steering really hard to move for a damn reason you dummy!!' and you ignore it and try and force the wheel against the feedback you're feeling. Sometimes it could be coming off a steep obstacle and you're not slow enough descending and you have a wheel turned and once again, your shocks are no good because your suspension arms are near perpendicular to ground. Gravity is fighting you keeping the wheels straight.

Aftermarket tie rods are great. The RMAX's steering rack has been beefed up as well. You can fall into one of two camps:

  • The steering rack is beefy enough to handle the added stress put on it from going with heavier tie rods, or
  • You increase the risk of breaking a steering rack, which is much more expensive and harder to change out than a tie rod, which is cheaper and can be changed out in 15 minutes

Same logic above applies to CV axles. It's no fun changing out a diff.