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This thread is to gather information to determine if there's an issue with bending the shock mounts on the Wolverine X2/X4 and under what conditions. Many who've installed the Highlifter 3.5" lift kit have bent their shock mounts (and there are some who haven't). There are also some who are stock and have bent them.

Transparency is a key element here. While I understand that some of you may not want to jeopardize an insurance claim you may have pending if you've experienced it, if there truly is a problem, addressing it with truthful facts is the proper way to do it. I've created a format to use and if you haven't had an issue, please also chime in, especially if you do spirited riding with your X2/X4

1) Model and year of X2/X4
2) Have you experienced bent shock mounts?
3) Stock or size of aftermarket tires
4) Using a lift kit (which one) or stock?
5) Using stock or aftermarket shocks (which ones)?
6) Mileage\hours
7) Type of typical riding you do including typical speed
8) If you experienced bent shock towers did you notice it after a specific incident or did you notice it upon casual inspection?
9) If you experienced bent shock towers what speed were you going and the nature of of the incident such as what type of obstacle or road condition caused it
10) Pictures of bent shock tower if affected
11) Video of specific instance that caused the bent shock tower
12) Video of off-roading where you do spirited riding and have not experienced bent shock towers

The above format will be edited based on feedback\overlooked facts that need to be obtained.

I'll also add that if this is an issue, it seems to be easily rectifiable with support brackets, some who've already fabricated on their own. Certainly an opportunity for the aftermarket vendors to take advantage of.

Finally, I don't think it's an issue for most normal drivers as I don't see enough reports of it.
 

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1) Model and year of X2/X4
2) Have you experienced bent shock mounts?
3) Stock or size of aftermarket tires
4) Using a lift kit or stock?
5) Using stock or aftermarket shocks?
6) Mileage\hours
7) Type of typical riding you do including typical speed
8) If you experienced bent shock towers did you notice it after a specific incident or did you notice it upon casual inspection?
9) If you experienced bent shock towers what speed were you going and the nature of of the incident such as what type of obstacle or road condition caused it
10) Pictures of bent shock tower if affected
11) Video of specific instance that caused the bent shock tower
12) Video of off-roading where you do spirited riding and have not experienced bent shock towers

1) 2018 X4, one of the very early models
2) I have not experienced bent shock mounts
3) 27" Tusck Terrabites on 12" STI HD beadlock rims
4) Stock no lift
5) Stock shocks (for now)
6) Over 5K miles and over 350 hours
7) I do highway\in-town driving 50% of the time and the other 50% is on tight technical rocky trails with some forestry roads where faster 20-30 MPH speeds are attained so long as conditions permit
8) N\A
9) N\A
10) N\A
11) N\A
12) N\A
 

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1) 2018 wolverine X4
2) have not experienced vent shock tower
3) 28x10-14 tusk terrabites 14" tusk Teton beadlocks
4)no lift kit. ( Removed highlifter a week after I put it in with no ride time)
5)used stock shocks for first 580 miles and abused them more that my current 814 suspension dominators. Only because I have had a chance to get a good hard trail ride on them due to weather. I did gain more lift with the 814's than I did the highlifter FYI
6)700 miles/ not sure how many hours.
7) 30% highway, Creek riding, steep chirt hill climbs, mild jumping, Rocky technical trails, and try my best to stay away from mud at all cost. Speeds anywhere from slow to WFO.
8) N/A
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10) N/A
11) N/A
12) N/A
The Hill climb pictured below was WFO. You can't go up it slow or you'll flip backwards. This was on stock shocks with 28" terrabites. Probably running 30-35 mph at start of hill.
 

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If there is anybody out there that has bent their shock mounts please post some pics so that we all know where to look. I definitely am a spirited driver and have inspected my mounts since hearing about this and havn't noticed anything but I would like to know exactly where poeple are finding the weak spot.
 
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yes pics would be helpful. i had ordered the highlifter kit but cancelled after hearing this. wish there was a kit that lifts at the bottom of the shock.
 

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yes pics would be helpful. i had ordered the highlifter kit but cancelled after hearing this. wish there was a kit that lifts at the bottom of the shock.
Gorilla Axle used to make a solid billet aluminum lift kit for the Gen 1 Wolverines that mounted on the a-arms and lifted from the bottom of the shocks. Very simple and very strong, just cost twice as much as the others and they no longer make lift kits.

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Thanks Massive. I have been looking around as well and come across this thread from last year about bent mounts without a lift. It has some descent pics as well. Not gonna lie. This issue has me worried if it is becoming commonplace. I totally agree with the fact that suspension components should rip off before a frame should bend.

https://www.wolverineforums.com/for...ussion/23410-frame-suspension-weak-point.html
 
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Thanks Massive. I have been looking around as well and come across this thread from last year about bent mounts without a lift. It has some descent pics as well. Not gonna lie. This issue has me worried if it is becoming commonplace. I totally agree with the fact that suspension components should rip off before a frame should bend.

https://www.wolverineforums.com/for...ussion/23410-frame-suspension-weak-point.html
I remember that thread and summarily dismissed it because: "I hit it doing around 45". I don't care if it's a tree, a rock, mud, snow, water, or a gaggle of pillows, chances are you're going to bend or break something at those speeds hitting anything but a ghost.
 

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I remember that thread and summarily dismissed it because: "I hit it doing around 45". I don't care if it's a tree, a rock, mud, snow, water, or a gaggle of pillows, chances are you're going to bend or break something at those speeds hitting anything but a ghost.
To be dead honest though I have hit big ruts, rocks, and probably other things at very high speeds as well and usually though at the higher speeds things are smoother. You go over them so quickly the suspension usually don't even have time to drop. Its when I hit things at the slower to medium speeds is when I usually go OUCH!!! When I looked back at that thread last night and saw the picture of that rut across the road the first thing I thought was I've flown over stuff like that many times. I got home from work early enough this evening though to inspect it well now that I knew what I was looking for and all was well. Mounts all look perfect but I'm seriously gonna be sketched out about this happening from now on. I think having the bigger 28" tires at only 11lbs helps out a lot though when to comes to sucking things up.
 

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1) Model and year of X2/X4
2) Have you experienced bent shock mounts?
3) Stock or size of aftermarket tires
4) Using a lift kit (which one) or stock?
5) Using stock or aftermarket shocks (which ones)?
6) Mileage\hours
7) Type of typical riding you do including typical speed
8) If you experienced bent shock towers did you notice it after a specific incident or did you notice it upon casual inspection?
9) If you experienced bent shock towers what speed were you going and the nature of of the incident such as what type of obstacle or road condition caused it
10) Pictures of bent shock tower if affected
11) Video of specific instance that caused the bent shock tower
12) Video of off-roading where you do spirited riding and have not experienced bent shock towers

1) 2018 Wolverine X4 SE
2) No bent shock mounts
3) 28x10r14 Gladiator ATR Radial Tires on 14X7 STI HD7 +10mm Offset Wheels
4) Stock, no lift kit
5) Stock OEM shocks
6) 1250 Miles
7) 15%(maybe) on the street getting to trail heads and running to the liquor store, 20% dirt forestry roads getting to trail heads as well, and 65% mountain trails consisting of a variety of terians(rocky, dusty, well groomed, creeks and rivers, etc.)
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12) Might be able to provide this in the future. As soon as I learn how. LOL
 
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on a different topic wolvyman where did u get the 18gr hv weights. does it rev high on top speed? thanks
 
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that's way more simple than the highlifter kit. to me the highlifter kit has too many parts.
 

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on a different topic wolvyman where did u get the 18gr hv weights. does it rev high on top speed? thanks
They are Hunterworks and no they don't rev to high at all at top speed. I am running a true to size 28. I am all stock otherwise though but I do feel as if I had the ECU flash to remove the speed limiter that it could rev a little higher.
 
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They are Hunterworks and no they don't rev to high at all at top speed. I am running a true to size 28. I am all stock otherwise though but I do feel as if I had the ECU flash to remove the speed limiter that it could rev a little higher.
ok will check for the 18gr weights. thanks for the info.
 

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Well we have another bent shock mount report, first X2 I've seen it happen on. This is from jumping a hill and reportedly caught 10' of air and landed flat. Guys, these are not YXZ's!!

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The rider puts his X2 through the grinder and fully accepts the consequences of his overzealous actions. Frankly I'm impressed there's not more damage from a 10' fall.
 

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That falls under the abuse category! Not going to happen in my old man tractor travels.
 

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Seriuos! I agree. Anyone interested in jumping like that should have bought a YXZ, TALON, or CAN AM X3. Im not even gonna say the "P" word. LOL. But you all know what I'm saying. I've gotten mine a few feet off the ground but the landing was on a long downward slope and touched the ground super smooth. I went off this many times on my quad and Rhino so I new all would be well. I just had to get a taste of what the X4 was capable of. But definitely isn't something I do often. Or I would would have bough a pure sports machine.
 

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A lot of weight coming down on these. 2 time more than an ATV or more. To me there isn't much travel in the suspension anyway looking at it on the flat on mine.
 
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