[Hondabob]

When is the slug kit needed? Is it only needed on huge mud tires if so what size?
I will be running the stock 26 inch tires or maybe 27 inch Big Horns.
I will install the belt drive kit for a lower gear for rock crawling in a month or so at about 2,500 miles.
The Viking and Wolverine have the same belt drive including the rollers. The Wolverine has a different belt.
What is the stock roller weight and does the belt drive kit use a lighter weight for more revs.
What is the shift out rpm stock? What is the shift out rpm with the kit.
Except for very slow driving the rpm is from 4,000 to 6,500 rpm. The rev limit is 7,000. It back shifts good with hard throttle. Top speed in deep loose sand is about 46 mph. The belt temperature runs from 140 to the 160's most of the time. On 1,000 foot elevation gain hill climbs it goes in the 170's and after 10 miles of deep loose sand wash runs I got 185 degrees. My stock 08 Teryx went just over 200 on the same run and I got about 5,000 miles out of the belt. My buddy has it now with over 16,000 miles on it. FYI the belt glue melts at about 260 degrees. Anything under 190 is fairly good.

 

[Timmi]

Always do slugs, 16g weight will be good for the setup you will have. Stock weights are 21g.

 

[Hondabob]

Thanks Timmi If I understand right the slug kit will make the wet clutch engage slightly quicker and harder requiring a lower gear take off gear. There is about 5 different roller weights available. When is the lightest used and when is the heaviest used and I know they are not round?

What is the shift out rpm stock? What is the shift out rpm with the kit. Now I cruise at about 48 mph at 6,000 rpm. 7,000 is the rev limit. I understand the kit will allow the belt to have a lower start off gear and also gear it up more for a higher top speed. Is the lower start off gear really noticeable or just slightly lower? What is the largest mud tire in use for Viking guys and what gram weights do they use. It looks like 27 or 28 tires may fit on the Wolverine but 30's won't.

In low range it does about 3 mph at 3,000 rpm with poor throttle response. At 4,000 rpm its at 6 mph and the throttle response is pretty good.

 

[Hondabob]

I will be checking for the sludge build up and I do way over 1,000 miles a month so it won't take long for that test. My 05 and 08 Rhino needed the grease changed and the sludge cleaned out about every 2,500 miles. I installed a belt drive snorkel up under the roof on my 08 and at 7,000 miles there was no sludge. On my 05 Rhino the sludge build up would pull a roller out and break the sheave plus it would be stuck in mid gear.

BTW Yamaha was testing their 3 cylinder Sport Model at the Glammis sand dunes recently. Polaris had their Turbo there too.

 

[Timmi]

Thank you for the info, questions, and photos, Bob! 16gr would be the lowest you can go in sand and it would rev high with 25".18gr and stock spring for larger tires.

 

[Little Wing]

BTW Yamaha was testing their 3 cylinder Sport Model at the Glammis sand dunes recently. Polaris had their Turbo there too.

Any pictures or comments from the peanut gallery? where did you hear this, Bob?

 

[justgurney]

Any pictures or comments from the peanut gallery? where did you hear this, Bob?

Inquiring minds need to know

 

[MUDDY]

+1 opcorn:

 

[Frankb]

I will be checking for the sludge build up and I do way over 1,000 miles a month so it won't take long for that test. My 05 and 08 Rhino needed the grease changed and the sludge cleaned out about every 2,500 miles. I installed a belt drive snorkel up under the roof on my 08 and at 7,000 miles there was no sludge. On my 05 Rhino the sludge build up would pull a roller out and break the sheave plus it would be stuck in mid gear.

BTW Yamaha was testing their 3 cylinder Sport Model at the Glammis sand dunes recently. Polaris had their Turbo there too.

Coming from a quad background I am surprised that the sxs machines require sludge cleaned out and grease changed every 2,500 miles. I did not have to do that with my Grizzly. I would pull the cover once in a while, check the belt and blow it out but that is all that was needed.

 

[Hondabob]

The Quads draw the belt cooling air from up front just forward and under the handlebars. The Rhino's draw it from behind the drivers seat. The Wolverine is up under the forward part of the bed and that location may be ok. If no sludge buildup at 2,000 miles I won't have to run a clean air snorkel up under the roof when I install a belt drive kit.
The Yamaha Sport model will be announced later this year probably in September. The guys can't say anything. Polaris had 5 turbo cars there too. One thing is for sure the Yamaha will be super high end and will probably have a 3 cylinder engine. Honda may have one too and they should announce some new models this month. A 5 seat model with a parallel twin and a single cylinder sport model. Polaris, Arctic Cat, and Can-am all have serious design and build quality problems. They will have some serious competition and the Yamaha will have a high quality design and build if its anything like the standard for the Wolverine.

 

[Hunterworks]

When is the slug kit needed? Is it only needed on huge mud tires if so what size?
I will be running the stock 26 inch tires or maybe 27 inch Big Horns.
I will install the belt drive kit for a lower gear for rock crawling in a month or so at about 2,500 miles.
The Viking and Wolverine have the same belt drive including the rollers. The Wolverine has a different belt.
What is the stock roller weight and does the belt drive kit use a lighter weight for more revs.
What is the shift out rpm stock? What is the shift out rpm with the kit.
Except for very slow driving the rpm is from 4,000 to 6,500 rpm. The rev limit is 7,000. It back shifts good with hard throttle. Top speed in deep loose sand is about 46 mph. The belt temperature runs from 140 to the 160's most of the time. On 1,000 foot elevation gain hill climbs it goes in the 170's and after 10 miles of deep loose sand wash runs I got 185 degrees. My stock 08 Teryx went just over 200 on the same run and I got about 5,000 miles out of the belt. My buddy has it now with over 16,000 miles on it. FYI the belt glue melts at about 260 degrees. Anything under 190 is fairly good.

Viking and Wolverine have the same belt 1XD-17641-00-00

Just looked again at my Wolverine and checked number on parts fiche same belt as 14 and 15 Viking

Actually the only thing different I can tell is the clutch cover has a different gasket

Our slugs work but different gasket, that gasket for clutch cover is not available yet, I have some on order. Same nut though.

 

[Frankb]

The Quads draw the belt cooling air from up front just forward and under the handlebars. The Rhino's draw it from behind the drivers seat. The Wolverine is up under the forward part of the bed and that location may be ok. If no sludge buildup at 2,000 miles I won't have to run a clean air snorkel up under the roof when I install a belt drive kit.
The Yamaha Sport model will be announced later this year probably in September. The guys can't say anything. Polaris had 5 turbo cars there too. One thing is for sure the Yamaha will be super high end and will probably have a 3 cylinder engine. Honda may have one too and they should announce some new models this month. A 5 seat model with a parallel twin and a single cylinder sport model. Polaris, Arctic Cat, and Can-am all have serious design and build quality problems. They will have some serious competition and the Yamaha will have a high quality design and build if its anything like the standard for the Wolverine.

GREAT information Bob!