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What's the deal with the horrible comparisons? Really the pioneer -4!! Also why hasn't there been any test units out there? If this comes out in a month with no real world test how do we justify buying?
 

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Honda and Kawasaki are who Yamaha sees as their competition, they ignored all the other manufacturers. I don't know why.
 

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I don't understand their reasoning either. They are in competition with Polaris and Can Am and Arctic Cat whether they like it or not, and Polaris is the nut they will have to crack to gain significant market share.

Now, I am going to be honest here. I have been pondering the Wolverine since its announcement, and a group of us went riding last week end and there was a Viking in the bunch. I think they are a fine vehicle, but, I won't be getting a Wolverine. I will be keeping my Ranger. The Wolverine doesn't offer enough improvement for me to make the switch. The main reasons are NO TURF MODE, no dump bed, no swing tail gate, and not enough power. I think the Wolverine will be more capable on hills as far as stability but that is not enough since I don't have big problem with that with my little Ranger.

Now, if the Wolverine proves to be a super hill climber and a cut above the rest as far as trail capability (and the price is drastically discounted) I might change my mind, but I will have to see it first hand.
 

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That's understandable. I don't need any of the features you list. The Wolverine has everything my rzr 570 needs to be a great trail machine, plus it adds Yamaha reliability and durability. With a cdi and Hunterworks clutch I will have all the power and speed I will ever need.

I don't understand their reasoning either. They are in competition with Polaris and Can Am and Arctic Cat whether they like it or not, and Polaris is the nut they will have to crack to gain significant market share.

Now, I am going to be honest here. I have been pondering the Wolverine since its announcement, and a group of us went riding last week end and there was a Viking in the bunch. I think they are a fine vehicle, but, I won't be getting a Wolverine. I will be keeping my Ranger. The Wolverine doesn't offer enough improvement for me to make the switch. The main reasons are NO TURF MODE, no dump bed, no swing tail gate, and not enough power. I think the Wolverine will be more capable on hills as far as stability but that is not enough since I don't have big problem with that with my little Ranger.

Now, if the Wolverine proves to be a super hill climber and a cut above the rest as far as trail capability (and the price is drastically discounted) I might change my mind, but I will have to see it first hand.
 

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I really wish it had a dumpbed and a swing gate. Power wise I dont know, I rented a viking for a day and it was very nice but under powered. Im guessing with a power up kit and clutch work it would have plenty of power. I would like a tilt wheel also. How about comparing the wolverine to the deere rsxi 850? That's another machine I'm interested in..
 

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In truth the Wolverine should have no problem getting the required power needed to climb the long steep gravel hills that the Viking was having problems on, but why should the new owner have to shell out more money and void his warranty to get the power that Yamaha should have supplied from the factory? My 570 ACE has only two less horsepower than the Wolverine and it is one of the less stressed Polaris engines as far a power to displacement that they currently produce. My Ranger with its antiquated 2 valve heads and pushrod valvetrain and 760cc has 50 horsepower and the RZR 800 has 54. And why should the new owner have to shell out more money for clutch work to get the performance that Yamaha should have supplied. It is not like it would have cost them any more money. Apparently the only difference is machining and tuning. And why not install a tilt wheel? Cheap! And the legendary Yamaha reliability, they have already held up the release for a defect. I read about the superiority of the Yamaha clutch yet I read about them failing on the six seat Vikings. I guess this sounds like a rant but I was really considering the Wolverine but these shortcomings are disappointing.
 

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As I see it , this is a rhino, its got a +3" A arm kit and adjustable shocks. Thats not enough to convince me to change from my rhino with shocks, clutch kit and re-jet. If your new to side by sides it sounds good, but its not much of an upgrade and extra width is a detriment on the trails.
 

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it's 6 inches wider, not a deal breaker for me. much better suspension than a rhino and a dohc engine. It works for me.
 

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I will be getting one when they come out if I like it. I want to see it in person first. I bought a 2014 Maverick and it was fast and had great suspension but when trail riding or out scouting for deer and riding real slow it would polish the belt and start squeeling very loud. I only had it a couple of months and had to take it apart 3 times it was not reliable at all and after having my rhino for 8 years with very little problems pretty much just 2 starters and 2 batteries and one belt I will be getting another reliable Yamaha until all of the big machines figure out the belt issues. I will take reliability over speed.
 

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All of my Polaris vehicles have been reliable. I have several family and friends with Polaris vehicles and we collectively have never had a belt problem since 1996.

We went on a group trip to Black Mountain KY last year and one vehicle held us up with ongoing problems. We nursed it along for two days with charging problems. Yes, a Yamaha Rhino. Go figure. Legendary reliability. Five Polaris and one Yamaha.

On edit: By the way the Rhino owner (very pro Yamaha guy) bought a RZR 1000 soon after we got back. Yamaha needs to get their head out of their back end. Polaris and Can AM and Arctic Cat will eat their lunch on this too little too late Wolverine. Notice how dead this web site is? Performance sells and 47 HP will pretty much kill it except for Yamaha die hards.

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In our group most of the Polaris have ongoing problems. Many have gone to the Teryx. The hp is enough for what the machine is intended to do. The web site traffic will pick up when the Wolverine hits the dealers.
 

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I am not hung up on hp numbers. My 570 runs with anything on the trails we ride and so will the Wolverine. I install Hunterworks clutches on everything, they are better than any factory clutch. I never use the tilt wheel in my rzr so another non issue. As far as defects, I would rather them take care of it before releasing them than after. No new model will be perfect, they'll get it right.
In truth the Wolverine should have no problem getting the required power needed to climb the long steep gravel hills that the Viking was having problems on, but why should the new owner have to shell out more money and void his warranty to get the power that Yamaha should have supplied from the factory? My 570 ACE has only two less horsepower than the Wolverine and it is one of the less stressed Polaris engines as far a power to displacement that they currently produce. My Ranger with its antiquated 2 valve heads and pushrod valvetrain and 760cc has 50 horsepower and the RZR 800 has 54. And why should the new owner have to shell out more money for clutch work to get the performance that Yamaha should have supplied. It is not like it would have cost them any more money. Apparently the only difference is machining and tuning. And why not install a tilt wheel? Cheap! And the legendary Yamaha reliability, they have already held up the release for a defect. I read about the superiority of the Yamaha clutch yet I read about them failing on the six seat Vikings. I guess this sounds like a rant but I was really considering the Wolverine but these shortcomings are disappointing.
 
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