I just saw this bad boy today... I really like the look of it, (I'm a sucker for kawi green!) seems to have a lot of nice features.
Wonder how it'll stand up to the Talon and YXZ!?
I know! my thoughts exactly, love that it still have the centrifugal clutch too!By the numbers it should out perform them both and the RZR Xp 1000 in every way except a drag race. This is the 1st side by side designed that hasn’t disappointed me right out of the gate. It’s also got the most sex appeal. Just a little big for tight trails! They covered a lot of things others were lacking and kept the best of things that work well. It also has a huge line of accessories ready to go! Hopefully it will be as reliable as expected!
68 is fast enough for me as well but I'm not a duner. Now, not being a duner take my opinion with a grain of salt in getting into the mind\wants of a duner. Duners like\need to go fast. Wheel speed is important to that goal in sand. It's not just about overall speed but not having enough momentum\wheel speed to stay on top of the sand and not get stuck\bogged-out.68 would be fast enough for me, he said in the video "it gets there pretty quick" but I suppose that's all relative.
I think there is a large crowd of people such as myself that don’t care about 195 hp turbo model. We have no desire to be fastest or only be set up for the dunes. We also want suspension travel ground clearance and enough HP to turn at least 30” tires in mud snow and sand. We don’t want to mod it to put larger tires on either. We also want to carry more than just a 24” cooler! Sport recreation vehicles out there all fall short for my needs in someway except the can am sport x rc so far. It’s the most rounded in all ways for my specific needs. Pure sport machines have not been what I need either. Finally things are shifting some to the middle where you buy something that can do all the things you want without serious modding and customizing! I’m excited to see the industry starting to listen to what the average consumer wants! IMO68 is fast enough for me as well but I'm not a duner. Now, not being a duner take my opinion with a grain of salt in getting into the mind\wants of a duner. Duners like\need to go fast. Wheel speed is important to that goal in sand. It's not just about overall speed but not having enough momentum\wheel speed to stay on top of the sand and not get stuck\bogged-out.
If you're spending $20K on a sport SxS, what's your goal? Why did you buy a sport SxS over a recreational SxS? Why are many buying the upgraded turbo models?
I predict it will be hugely popular out west here. There’s a lot of trails that aren’t so narrow and tight to ride, lots of rock crawling places to go where I believe it will be possibly number 1 and plenty of open dune country as well. A turbo kit is already designed that is predicated to be released by the end of the rear for 175 HP and while that doesn’t take top seat it will be a top competitor. There is a long travel kit already available putting it at 72” wide with another 1.5” of wheel travel. I like the cage and the overall appearance. I’ve always preferred the RZR look and overall platform over anything out there but would never own one. I think Polaris finally just got beat on on looks and there winning platform but that will yet to be determined in real world comparisons. General maintenance was well thought out and looks to be very user friendly. I like the doors too. Full coverage, arm rests, solid, normal design. I can’t imagine this CVT being a belt blower and the CVT temp gage is going to be the new standard going forward for every manufacturer I’d bet. While I was excited about the Talon with no CVT it’s not yet proven and there have been some red flags already. Also from what I’m reading it has a whine that makes our gen 1 wolverine seem mild. I’ll take this true locking diff over I4wd any day and the Talons just Fugly. I’ve tried to like the appearance but I just can’t. It also sucks up dirt in the intake like nobody’s business, and why 28” donuts on a 100 Hp machine with little room in design to go bigger?I agree Budro, this thing should ROCK in Moab,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IF they got the low range gearing right, and I'm guessing they did with the experience I've had riding with a Teryx T4, which has superior gearing to my Wolverine 708.
77 ft lbs torque, great ground clearance, superb suspension travel, 351 lbs bed cap, 31's on 15's, high air intake for water crossings,the 4x4 system that works best for me, 1.5 gallons more fuel on board than YXZ, my math says 272 Lbs more than YXZ, low range without rebuilding a transmission or changing flywheel wheels.
I dont need 10,500 rpm red line, I need low end torque, and I prefer regular doors as opposed to suicide, sure looks good to me on paper, anxious to sit in one and check out the "feel".
Hopefully dont have to modify the door opening, bolsters or seats to have easy access to the cockpit!
Wonder what its like to perform regular maintenance on?
Their release video shows a multi-dimensional machine that I'm sure isnt the absolute best at everything, but it looks like it will come pretty close to handling a variety of terrains rather well, (without, like you said Budro, "modifying the hell out of it") except for the trails with the 50" pinch gates, of course!
For me I wouldnt need lift kits that potentially overtax frame components and change the geometry, bigger tires that overload steering, brakes, and suspension components, wheel spacers that load bearings and suspension different than they were designed for, and best of all I wouldnt be screwing around with a clutch trying to find the right combo to get it to climb at 12,000+ feet of elevation,,,,,,,,,,,,,IF they got the low range right.
BUT,,,,,,,The big question from the wife is: does it ride as nice as the Wolverine???
Todd, I wish it was as simple as cheapest + fastest= best, but I tend to overcomplicate things! Character flaw of mine:culpability:I personally think Polaris is still safe, get a 80mph machine for $14k to $18k depending where you buy it. Only thing I think this shines at is lower speed technical riding with the clutch system with the ability to have some faster trail fun.
A plain ole cheapest model XP 1000 will eat this machines lunch on anything faster, duning, fast trail riding like cross country racing style of riding which I I do when I can ride. Too heavy to be good at anything but the slower style of sport riding and it might be one of the best at the really slow stuff.
Well of course it is more complicated but some of us have never had an issue with a Polaris, I have three now no more issues than any yamaha I hadTodd, I wish it was as simple as cheapest + fastest= best, but I tend to overcomplicate things! Character flaw of mine:culpability: