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Greetings all.

I am in the market for a side by side, I currently have a Kawasaki Brute Force (it is my 3rd Brute) and have been riding ATV's ever since they were called ATC,s (and only had 3 wheels) back in the 80s.

I have shopped extensively and sat in just about every SXS out there. The Wolverine fits me like a glove. I am 6'1" 220 and no other SXS is as comfortable to me as the Wolverine. I tried the X4 and my legs were cramped.

As stated in the title, Is the 708cc enough? The type of riding I do is real easy to describe. The group I ride with generally go to 2 different areas. We go up to Bingham Maine and ride the logging roads around that area. Pretty straight forward, some light hills but mainly logging roads. I am confident the Wolverine could do that all day.

The other area we go to is the Hatfield Mccoy Trails in WV. We go for 6 or 7 days and ride from sun up to sun down. Now this is the area that has me concerned. Will the Wolverine carry me up the hills and mountains at speed ( not flying but maintaining a steady rate).

We are all in our 50s and 60s and as such we are not drag racing, rock crawling or Mud bogging. Just looking to not be "That Guy" that everyone has to wait for while climbing some of the trails.

I can afford the X4 or any Polaris or Can Am but I don't want to have to pay those prices if the Wolverine will do what I need. I don't want or need the biggest and badest machine on the trail. I just want something comfortable and reliable so that it carries me back out of the woods.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer but since I have not taken one for a test drive yet I thought I would put this question out to you guys and girls. After all,you have one and are fully aware of the capabilities.

Thanking you in advance for any help or guidance you could give.

Vic.
 

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Im in the 220 lb range and have rode all over the area down in the Hatfield and Mcoy country including the outlaw trails and never have had a problem. I think the Wolverine is one of the more capable machines for those trails I ride. My dad has the Teryx and in a lot of spots it is a tight ride for him, meaning steering and turning. I think the machine has enough power for any trail there. Would a bigger motor be nice sure, I went through the same machine choices as you did and in my mind I hit the target dead center with my choice. Good luck in your decision process.
 

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I did a lot of research and stewed on it for a long time, but I don't regret my choice of the wolverine, I have found the 708cc motor to be just fine. It carries my wife and I quite well up steep rocky hills with out a hiccup, and neither of us is skinny anymore. Acceleration is snappy when you stand on it. The ride is very comfortable. It won't keep up with all the high performance machines when speed is the goal, but for an average trail rider it is more than adequate. The only issue I have had with mine is a hole poked through the stock tire (2 ply Bighorn 2.0). Otherwise I just keep the fluids and filters clean and topped off. The only regret I DO have is that I don't get to ride it nearly as much as I would like to. I hope this helps.
 
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I’m 6’5” 290. I often have people riding as my passenger.one of whom is 6’6” 300. I have not found any hill I could not climb with the two of us in the machine. I second the comment about the wolvy fitting almost everywhere. My brother in law has a teryx. His cage is much bigger and he has a hard time on off camber tight areas that I sail through. The wolvy may not be the fastest in a straight line but I’ve never lagged behind anyone in the woods.
 

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im on the upper side of 280 and my wife rides with me a lot but shes not very big at all. I also throw in a 50lbsish tool cooler in the back and I can keep up with and occasionally outperform my buddies commander 800 no sweat up to about 35ish mph range. beyond that the wolverine just cant hang. but 35mph trail riding is moving along pretty good in the tight trails we have and at the hatfield mccoy trails we were at recently you really cant go any faster than that or you run the risk of hitting someone coming the other way. below 35ish the wolverine is a blast, its easy to break the tires loose and slide it around and climbing steep stuff has never been an issue either. im not saying you cant ride the wolverine fast im just saying it doesn't get up to high speeds like the big twin machines. I think its a very balanced machine both in the layout and power delivery for tighter or technical type riding. Plus I use mine for a lot of work around the properties and the low end grunt is much more useable than a race machine. one of the best features of the machine is not roasting in the summer. That 800 commander I ride with is an absolute boiler in the summer.
 

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I also came from a V twin Kawi, an 02 Prairie. The wolverine is no where near as snappy. It has less power and twice the weight. It gives up about 20 mph up top.

That said I have zero regrets with the Yamaha. At speeds less then 45 it has plenty of power. On level ground it's faster than the Teryx that has the Kawi twin, rides better, is more comfortable and more capable.
In tight trails it's as fast or faster then anything else. I ride with YXZ's, a Teryx and Polaris Highlifter 1000's most the time and never feel I need more power on the trails. Even on the road there aren't many places in the east they can open it up long enough to get to far away. They all top out within 15-20 MPH of each other, the 1000's just get there quicker.
 

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I think most on this forum could afford any sxs on the market. Yamaha has an excellent reputation and that is the reason I and many others went with this brand. as for the 708 engine it is more than adequate and has taken me almost everywhere I have tried to go. It probably isn't going to beat most RZRs in a drag race but will stay with them on the trails. I love mine and think you will love it also. You will also get to enjoy the best forum on the net.
 

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For what you describe, I believe the Wolv will suit you just fine. If you worry about staying with your buddies because of the difference in the higher-powered units, (no disrespect intended) but I would submit the thought you might need new buddies lol. We have a 400 Honda, solid rear axle 4 wheeler in our group and don't ever think about riding without him. $.02
 

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I second the forum support for this machine is fantastic. ive lurked on a few different forums for machines I considered buying and I cant stand the insulting negative nature of the members. I check this sight nearly every day and ive found a ton of applicable advice.
 

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I am glad to hear all the positive thoughts on the Wolverine. I thought it may perform well and you guys have confirmed that. This makes my decision process so much easier as now I just need to find the best deal on a Wolverine.

The group I ride with is a mix of ATV's and SXS. We attend Trailfest in Gilbert WV each year and have watched the mix turn from mostly ATV's to this past year the SXS's outnumbered the ATV's. A few of us are looking to make the switch and the Yamaha Wolverine is on the top of the list for many reasons, but the main one was reliability.

I look forward to the advice and knowledge I could gain on this site.

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I tend to think than any modification you can think of has been done by at least a few people on this site too. It’s an amazing group of very smart and friendly people.

I am glad to hear all the positive thoughts on the Wolverine. I thought it may perform well and you guys have confirmed that. This makes my decision process so much easier as now I just need to find the best deal on a Wolverine.

The group I ride with is a mix of ATV's and SXS. We attend Trailfest in Gilbert WV each year and have watched the mix turn from mostly ATV's to this past year the SXS's outnumbered the ATV's. A few of us are looking to make the switch and the Yamaha Wolverine is on the top of the list for many reasons, but the main one was reliability.

I look forward to the advice and knowledge I could gain on this site.

Vic.
 
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With all the pro's and con's listed, I think you'll find the Wolverine is pretty well liked by most owners, especially us big guys (6'3" 250lbs). We are also an older group of guys on here and can relate to your wants and needs. The Wolverine isn't a 1,000cc desert race machine, but it is one heck of a dependable, go just about anywhere, trail machine. The fuel economy is another huge bonus that I discovered, I have yet to need to add gas while on the trail even though I always have 2-1/2 gallon can in the rear.
 
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My RSpec SE is my first SxS. I’ve rode Hondas and Polaris ATVs my whole life and was riding a Sportsman 850 before the Wolverine. I have no problem admitting that I miss the V twin power of my 850 but the Wolverine was the right decision. Plenty of power where I need it most. It’s very comfortable to ride and drive. I can out perform most SxS on tight, muddy trails. And you can not beat the reliability of Yamaha.

Now that you’ve got our “unbiased” opinions, pull the trigger and get a X2!
 

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I'm about exactly the same size as you are and I'm with you - the Wolverine just fits me. I rented one for a few hours in the Black Hills and fell in love with it. It's got plenty of power for the riding I do. The power steering is great, the handling is very good, the stock clutching is smoother than others I have driven, and the ride quality is absolutely outstanding in my opinion. I have never ended up riding with people that dropped me and I'm not a high speed guy myself either. Our trails here in MN are not set up for anything over 25-35 mph tops. The trails and roads I ride in IA aren't much different. So in my opinion, the riders out there with 1000cc's and 80+ mph top speed are paying a lot of money for their fun. I know there are times when they get to have it with all that power too. My point is, I feel I can have just as much fun on our trails with my little 708. I'm happy and I still have money in the bank.
 
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I also need to add that the Wolverine or Viking was not even considered when I started looking for a SXS last summer just because of the single. I was looking at the Pioneer 1000, Teryx and Mule Pro FX (FXR was still just a rumor). These were the only machines I felt were worth the asking price. The high end SXS have price tags that are above what I can build or even buy a completed crawler/trail rig/buggy thats way more capable and street legal. The P1000 clutch problems took it out of the running. The P1000 would have perfect had it had a lower low range and stronger clutches. My riding would have killed fast as what they were telling owners not to do is what I do for fun. The FX dont have a front diff lock, and I couldn't find any aftermarket help at the time. I had experience with the Teryx. I went to look at an FX and they are huge, but they also had a Wolvy and I liked it.

Started doing some research, found some pretty impressive videos and great deal on a left over 2016. Thats how I ended up with the R spec. I really think the x4 engine in an R spec chassis, 30's, long travel kit and at least 16" belly would be perfect.

The 3 video's that sold me on the R spec.



 

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I had three adults and two dead boar hogs in my x2 totalling around 950 lbs. and we had no problems whatsoever going up and down the mountains back to camp, even in high gear. It is a stout 708cc engine. I've never heard anyone describe the Wolverine as sluggish or lacking power.
 

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That second video is insane.
 
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I came out of a RZR (Too much wrench turning) into a Wolverine.
I rode all over the mountains of Utah in 2016 with a new wolvey, and it went everywhere we wanted to go up to 10k feet and more.
I was in a RZR at the time.
That made up my mind.

Myself and many more ride the Hatfield/McCoy system regularly and have logged many miles on all the trails.
Best machine I have owned.
Its a Mountain Goat....

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I have had my wolverine for a year now and could not be happier. I Spent a week on the HM system/outlaws last fall and the wolverine surprised me every day. The 708 is plenty strong for for trail riding and mud. I run 27 inch xtr's with no clutch work and have never needed more power to turn them in deep mud. More power would be nice but not needed. It climbs like a goat and is unbelievably stable on rutted out tree root exposed hills. I will go up many trails on the wolverine that i will not try on my Brute Force. Go test ride one and you will be sold. I almost bought a general deluxe for $8,000 more but after driving the wolverine I changed my mind in an instant. Yamaha is very slow to bring out new machines, but when they do they are built extremely well.
 
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I will go up many trails on the wolverine that i will not try on my Brute Force.
THIS is what I discovered when I rented one. I couldn't believe what it would climb and I still felt safe compared to my Griz.
 
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