Check the secondary filter too. If you got it oil soaked it would cause the same thing.

 

I started the machine with only the secondary filter in and it would start up fine. Then I’d put the primary filter in and it would stall it out within a few seconds…

Secondary filter looks very clean and dry.

The primary actually looked very clean as well but I hadn’t cleaned it in 800-900 KMs so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to clean it just so it could be re oiled.

I tend to ride in front most of the time so I’m not picking up a lot of dust.

 

I had this argument with some of the self proclaimed experts on here years ago, who said spray on was no good. It’s always served me very well. They proclaimed soaking it and hanging it up for the excess to run out was the only proper way to do it.

On my Rmax I’ve been using Belray and I drizzle it on and fold it and work it in and repeat. If never had a restarting issue.

I’m glad you made the post because I was considering using the method which just failed you.

I will say back when I used spray on, at 5000 miles, my entire intake was inspected by the dealer for a TSB related to oil consumption. It passed 100%. If they had found any dust in my intake they wouldn’t have performed the TSB at the time. I think they key to drizzle on or spray on, is common sense, ( which I can tell you have by your statement) by applying and kneading….. repeat. A fully saturated dripping filter never made a lick of sense to me.

 

I did leave it on the bench since last night so I’m curious if anything changed over a day. I am going to try it before I clean it out again.

I may also try to use a rolling pin to try and squeeze some more out…. Don’t want to hurt the filter though… we will see

 

As long as you get good coverage, I don't understand the issue. Back in the day I changed multiple air filters per day and always used spray on.

I also always used gas to clean them...which I know is also supposed to be bad ...but again never had an issue.

 

Rolling Pin sounds like a good idea to try. I would take it one step further and do it with the surface your rolling on, on an incline to help the oil that is squeezed out run away from the part you just rolled.

I have just always used the Yamaha foam filter oil in a bottle. I leave the foil cover on the top of the bottle and use a nail about 1/8" in diameter and punch 1 hole in the center of the foil on top of the oil bottle. This way I can rub the bottle, while gently squeezing it to apply the oil, directly to the filter in my hand. I always wear disposable latex gloves. I use about a 1/3 of a bottle of oil in total for 1 filter reoiling, knead it a lot, reapply more oil, and this pretty wells gets it a nice solid blue color. Takes a little longer with all the kneading involved but less to clean up and waste less oil.

This is the first I've heard of a machine dying from the air filter having to much oil.

 

After sitting for a day it works fine now… I took a picture to show a little bit of oil came out of it but not that much.

I started the machine with only secondary in then put the primary in place and it didn’t bog it down at all. Gave it a shot of gas and it seems very responsive. Turned it off. Started it back up again… running completely normal.

At the very least I know my air filter is oiled very well right now. Haha

 

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After sitting for a day it works fine now… I took a picture to show a little bit of oil came out of it but not that much.

I started the machine with only secondary in then put the primary in place and it didn’t bog it down at all. Gave it a shot of gas and it seems very responsive. Turned it off. Started it back up again… running completely normal.

At the very least I know my air filter is oiled very well right now. Haha

As an afterthought, when you cleaned the filter, did you let it completely air dry?
I remember one time years ago, I oiled a damp filter and had a similar problem, although not as bad.

 

Well turns out I’m an idiot and the product works exactly as described. I poured the oil out of the can into the bucket a couple days before I used it. So I dug the can out just to check the instructions this morning…

I missed this very important last step… “As soon as the filter is "uniformly" blue leave it to dry, in a well-ventilated area, preferably outside in the open air, under a piece of cloth. Allowing the thinning agent can evaporate for approximately 12-24 hours before the filter is ready to be used. Store oiled filters in a plastic bag with a small air ventilation hole.”

 

Doesn’t Sound like a product or methodology I’d be interested in!

 

I think if you use it correctly it probably does work very well. Not a fast process though.

 

I've seen people dry them with their outside heating and air units the fan that runs on top sitting their filters and drying them that way. Over oiled my YXZ filter first time as well leaked out air box even down on top of motor it was a mess. I use spray oil now Tusk has came out with some decent aersol can products that work great and are affordable

 

I have oiled it with spray on oil before and that seemed to work fine but the manual says to not use the spray stuff so I bought a cleaning and oiling kit from twin air Tiwn Air Twin Air Standard Maintenance Kit 159000 : Amazon.ca: Tools & Home Improvement


I thought soaking the air filter in oil and squeezing the excess oil out would be a better way to make sure the foam filter is thoroughly oiled.

Problem is it’s so well oiled no air can get through it. It stalls my machine out within seconds.

So I took the filter back out and squeezed for everything I was worth and I don’t think one drop came out of it. I put some paper towel in it and squeezed some oil into the paper towel… machine still stalled out with the air filter on.

Guess I’ll have to clean all the fresh oil out and start over. Next time I’ll just drizzle some oil on it and squeeze it through…

Anyway. Thought I was doing good for my machine getting a nice air filter maintainence kit. But it does not work as instructed with the RMax foam air filter.

Was wondering if anyone else had an experience like this.


EDIT: So… turns out I missed the last step of the instructions where it says to allow the filter to sit for 12-24 hours after oiling to allow the thinning agent to evaporate.

I tried it the next night when I got home and my machine ran perfectly…

Sorry for the stupid post. I guess the twin air filter maintenance kit works exactly as described.

 

allow the filter to sit for 12-24 hours after oiling to allow the thinning agent to evaporate.

 

I use a summit racing filter cleaner and spray oil on my K&N for my Harley. Works nicely