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This is a discussion on Drive belt question within the CVT, Sheaves & Wet Clutch forums, part of the Yamaha Wolverine Gen 1 708 cc SxS category; Anyone know off hand if a Viking belt could work on a Wolverine X2? I just had my belt explode at almost every tooth - ...

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    Drive belt question

    Anyone know off hand if a Viking belt could work on a Wolverine X2? I just had my belt explode at almost every tooth - it is stuck out in the bush. I had tools to get a look at it and see that other than one of the secondary cooling fins was broken, I don't see other damage. I had a long walk back to my truck and about a 3.5hr truck drive back to my home. I ordered one from my local dealer, but it is not going to be here until Friday. I would love to get it back before then! I have found a brand new Viking belt and I have Rhino belts, but don't want to risk the huge drive back out and not have it fit - anyone have some thoughts on this? appreciate the help.
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    If anyone else is interested, it looks like NO. Belt size on Viking 1 11/32 x 37 1/8" and Wolverine 1 13/32 x 41" and Rhino 1 1/4 x 37 1/8"
    Looks like I'm SOL for the moment.
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    Not sure what happened. 10 yr warranty? Unlikely, I have the Hunterworks clutch installed. I was driving around all day on the mining trails doing about 25-30 km/h and finally hit the fsr. Other than original test runs when I first got the clutch/weller flash, I've never gone above 60 - 70km/h. I was driving at 85 km/h for 2 kms and then BAM - exploded belt. I was able to get it off the road, but it is still out in the middle of no where. Will see more when I can get the clutches removed.
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    Is it garage stored when not in use?

    I’m curious if a rat or something built a nest in the CVT ducting.
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    Seems the most common denominator is always clutch modifications when belt is blown.

    Then 10 people come out of wood work to make suggestions on what causes that to happen when making the modifications.

    Seems I have read of more blown belts caused from the installation or improper installation of Hunterworks clutch mods than anything else. Why are not the proper compatible parts supplied that are right so the supposed improvement does end up stranding you ?

    Has the belt been coming out of secondary too far and hitting the cover ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budro2 View Post
    Is it garage stored when not in use?

    I’m curious if a rat or something built a nest in the CVT ducting.
    It is stored in a container when not in use but I have had it out on rides already this year with about 300km's on it. When I took the cover off, there was nothing unusual in there except belt debris. I will look closer when I get the belt but have not had issues with rodents in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielplace1962 View Post
    Seems the most common denominator is always clutch modifications when belt is blown.

    Then 10 people come out of wood work to make suggestions on what causes that to happen when making the modifications.

    Seems I have read of more blown belts caused from the installation or improper installation of Hunterworks clutch mods than anything else. Why are not the proper compatible parts supplied that are right so the supposed improvement does end up stranding you ?

    Did the belt come out of primary too far and hit the cover ?
    I don't see any evidence of the belt touching the cover but some of the cordage is DEEP in the secondary - might just be due to the failure but possible the belt hit the rivets in the bottom of the secondary? Don't know at this point. I am going to put my stock clutch back on anyway, was never impressed with the change the aftermarket clutch provided. I can rule it out this way! I was only travelling 1 or 2 km/h over stock speed when this occurred so don't think the rivets would be the problem.
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    The belt can only contact the cover on the secondary side and that can only happen when in the lowest ratio under heavy load. Not at the cruising speeds or top end speeds described.
    I’ve not read of one case of that yet with the x model. Supposedly Yamaha left enough room in the cover with the x model for it not to be an issue.

    This is why I’m guessing at poor air flow. The belt could have run pretty hot all day but when the top speeds were hit the temperature went to high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budro2 View Post
    The belt can only contact the cover on the secondary side and that can only happen when in the lowest ratio under heavy load. Not at the cruising speeds or top end speeds described.
    I’ve not read of one case of that yet with the x model. Supposedly Yamaha left enough room in the cover with the x model for it not to be an issue.

    This is why I’m guessing at poor air flow. The belt could have run pretty hot all day but when the top speeds were hit the temperature went to high?
    I understand the air flow concern and I'm not ruling it out. Most of the day was high range (normal for me) and low speed with some big climbs but not what I would call extreme. I was packing myself and some tools and optics all said about 300lbs above machine weight. I had just come down a slow (20km/h about 12mph) decent of about 800ft of elevation. I was in low here just to keep it slow. I was enjoying the day, looking for deer/sheep and just basically rolling along. It was about 12C (about 54F) ambient. I had a few drops of rain but mostly dry all day. I had just hit the good road and was obviously back in high and just got to cruising at 85 km (53 mph) when BAM. No unusual noise, other than the regular rattly clutch with dry weights since install. Thought I would give a better descript of events leading up to the incident.
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    We already know that the belt dosent get that hot and the Airflow is sufficient. Doesn't go past 50 and that was in the sand dunes and 30 outside.
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