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    Wolverine X4 vs Pioneer 1000-5

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    Gotta tell ya, I love my wolverine, but if I was in the market for a 4 seater, Pioneer hands down. The X4 can barely be used for utility purposes. At least the pioneers back seats fold down and turn into a cargo bed. X4 couldn't even haul a deer out the woods. Ridiculous.

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    Can you explain why you couldn’t haul a deer out with the x4?
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    I can see both sides of the argument. I think the X4 would be nice on the trails and it would fit in my garage between our vehicles and the pioneer wouldn't. I do like how the Pioneer 1000 goes 65 mph when I go down county roads and the pioneer is definitely quieter. You could put a deer in the back of the X4 with no problems but would hate to clean the blood and guts out of the guide rails LOL. I do think that the price on the X4 is a little steep but in a couple of months they will have rebates.

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    https://www.wolverineforums.com/forum...age-space.html

    There's plenty of storage space in the X4, you just need to get creative and stack vertically. Get a top-mounted rack or use a cargo bed net and you have more storage space than a dump bed. Install a cheap Harbor Freight winch up there to make it easy to load a full kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentonb View Post
    I can see both sides of the argument. I think the X4 would be nice on the trails and it would fit in my garage between our vehicles and the pioneer wouldn't. I do like how the Pioneer 1000 goes 65 mph when I go down county roads and the pioneer is definitely quieter. You could put a deer in the back of the X4 with no problems but would hate to clean the blood and guts out of the guide rails LOL. I do think that the price on the X4 is a little steep but in a couple of months they will have rebates.
    I'm surprised it's quieter unless you're including road noise from tires, which can be remedied. I'm hoping by early next year we'll have a solution for 60 MPH. I've already defeated the electronic speed limiter (now just need to defeat it mechanically):

    https://www.wolverineforums.com/forum...imitation.html

    I'm surprised none of the ATV/SxS mags/reviewers has done a 1000-5 vs X4 comparison yet (yes I already know about the paper-spec comparisons, I mean trail test)
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    2018 Blue Wolverine X4
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    Over 8000 miles and 500 hours
    Hunterworks prototype sheave with easy cleanout port, 22 gram HV weights
    Weller Racing ECU flash
    HMF Titan Series Quiet slip-on Exhaust
    Walker Evans shocks
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    OEM windshield, soft cab, and roof
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    OEM rock sliders
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    OEM cargo box
    Check out the Yamaha X2/X4 FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/WolverineX2X4/

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    For me these were the two machines I had it narrowed down to. After driving both and for my uses I felt the wolverine was a better fit for me. As far as noise goes the Honda is a lot louder then the wolverine by far. Also the on going Honda clutch issues and heat issues was also a factor in my decision. I thought the dct would be the way to go but really didn’t like it after driving one, seems really jerky. I think the Honda is a great machine and every year there getting more and more of the bugs out. Would be interested to see a trail comparison on both machines.
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    We did a decibel reading on the pioneer 3 seater and a wolverine X4 and the wolverine was 8 decibels louder then the Honda at idle, 10mph and 25mph. I do like the fact the wolverine will fit in a long box truck that would be so nice!

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    I wouldn't want to clean the blood out of either one. That's why you buy cheap tarps at Harbor Freight, makes a hell of a lot easier to lift between two people. And then there's the $3300 transmission that goes out on the Honda, which you can't repair, have to be a drop in. Personally, I prefer the Ultramatic CVT clutch. I'm sure there will be long travel suspension and upgraded shocks for the X4 before too long, the Socal people will dune it I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentonb View Post
    I can see both sides of the argument. I think the X4 would be nice on the trails and it would fit in my garage between our vehicles and the pioneer wouldn't. I do like how the Pioneer 1000 goes 65 mph when I go down county roads and the pioneer is definitely quieter. You could put a deer in the back of the X4 with no problems but would hate to clean the blood and guts out of the guide rails LOL. I do think that the price on the X4 is a little steep but in a couple of months they will have rebates.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brentonb View Post
    We did a decibel reading on the pioneer 3 seater and a wolverine X4 and the wolverine was 8 decibels louder then the Honda at idle, 10mph and 25mph. I do like the fact the wolverine will fit in a long box truck that would be so nice!
    Wow you must have had a different Honda Pioneer then the one my buddy has. The gear train noise is really loud when you pick up speed. I agree they are both very quiet at idle but once your moving there’s was no comparison. Did you run them on street? Then I could see the yamaha making some noise the tires are noisy on pavement.

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