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    Is this X2 Actually a better SxS than it predicessor?

    I am seeing a fairly high number of people bringing up various issues which all appear to revolve around the bigger twin engine.

    The Gen 1 708cc has been around the bushes a few times and most know what to expect. The great majority agree its quire reliable apart from a few components.

    I saw an X2 at the dealer when I went in looking for shock adjusting tool for my springs. What they had was way too small. But the cameo machine had the SE type shocks but did not have the other SE addons. I don't know what model it was.

    Its nice to have more HP and quieter running which are plus's for the x2. But issue are not what many want to buy into. Power at cold (after a few minutes of running since I let it warm up in the winter before going out) isn't a problem. It starts very quickly as well. I know from older threads the x2 inherited a modified motorcycle yamaha engine fitted for this purpose. I guess the summer HD running will say more on this new build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripplec View Post
    I am seeing a fairly high number of people bringing up various issues which all appear to revolve around the bigger twin engine.

    The Gen 1 708cc has been around the bushes a few times and most know what to expect. The great majority agree its quire reliable apart from a few components.

    I saw an X2 at the dealer when I went in looking for shock adjusting tool for my springs. What they had was way too small. But the cameo machine had the SE type shocks but did not have the other SE addons. I don't know what model it was.

    Its nice to have more HP and quieter running which are plus's for the x2. But issue are not what many want to buy into. Power at cold (after a few minutes of running since I let it warm up in the winter before going out) isn't a problem. It starts very quickly as well. I know from older threads the x2 inherited a modified motorcycle yamaha engine fitted for this purpose. I guess the summer HD running will say more on this new build.
    What issues are you speaking of?

    Those older threads were all crystal ball predictions. This is a brand new engine from the ground up. It may have inherited Yamaha design but to go so far as to say 'retrofitted', I don't know if there's evidence to support that.

    No need to wait until summer. Plenty of X4's out on the road for over a year using the exact same engine.

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    Like Massive said, the X4's have been out there for quite a while and if there were any obvious short term problems they would be showing up and I haven't seen any.
    So far they look like really good vehicles.

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    At one time I tried to count the improvements or additional nice features that were added to the X2 over the Gen 1 and I came up with close to 20 items. I was trying to convince myself I needed an X2, LOL, but just couldn't stand the thought of how many hours I had spent making my Gen 1 just like I wanted it with all of my 30 plus additions I have made to it and I am not ready to do it all over again.

    With any new engine there will always be surprises/problems that have to be worked out and those initial problems always get a lot emphasis because something we pay so much money for we expect it to be perfect and that just isn't the case ever. With the Gen 1 the few problem machines that have had oil consumption issues, engines running hot from minimally sized coolant systems/radiator, and a few failed water-pumps really stick out in everyone's mind and then with the X2/X4 the accessory heaters not getting hot is a biggie for the severe cold climate guys (but this has such a simple solution for 4 months out of the year) it is almost a no brainer. You can't really say the X2/X4 coolant system is defective or badly engineered unless you also want to say that every 18-wheeler big truck that partially blocks their radiator in the winter is also defectively designed and we know this is not the case, just part of severe cold weather preparation. Besides the door kidney killer and a little less leg room I haven't really read of anyone that has had any significant problems with their x2/x4 machines, most problems appear to be more due to not following the Owner's Manual or just getting use to a different new machine. All in all the X2/X4s sound pretty trouble free.
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    Well they're probably one or two off incidence of an issue someone has posted about. Certainly not a trend by any means. EG heating issues, dirty valves, knock, power on startup, and some other posted. The only one seems by design is the power appears restricted until warmed up which is fine. It keeps some people from flooring it before the oil is ready to work properly with the systems.

    Maybe I am reading too much....LOL Spring is here and I can get out when it warms up.
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    I don't believe I have that on mine. Kidney's are fine also... still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripplec View Post
    I don't believe I have that on mine. Kidney's are fine also... still.
    So are mine, watch the video (the second one). Kidneys may suffer for few days after you buy it, after that it's like riding a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MassiveOverkill View Post
    So are mine, watch the video (the second one). Kidneys may suffer for few days after you buy it, after that it's like riding a bike.
    Ok, i am up against the side support when driving (catching a lot of crud from the rear tire. I am going to figure out how to close off those gaps at the corners to stop it from covering my jacket. Its a must do.

    I haven't had a problem with the latch. Interesting as it appears it is more pronounce in the x2 than Gen 1. Not an improvement it appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripplec View Post

    I am seeing a fairly high number of people bringing up various issues

    Well they're probably one or two off incidence of an issue someone has posted about. Certainly not a trend by any means. EG heating issues, dirty valves, knock, power on startup, and some other posted. The only one seems by design is the power appears restricted until warmed up which is fine. It keeps some people from flooring it before the oil is ready to work properly with the systems.

    Maybe I am reading too much....LOL Spring is here and I can get out when it warms up.
    Thanks for clarifying. I'm betting most of the early 'issues' were posted by yours truly seeking other owners to verify if the issue was unique to myself or if it was a viable trend\issue to be concerned about.

    The fact that you shouldn't be stomping the throttle to the RPM limiter on any cold engine is universal. Just because Yamaha chose to incorporate a feature on the X2\X4 to prevent one from doing this doesn't mean they advocate doing it on the Gen 1 or that the X2\X4 engine is somehow delicate. The engine actually has forged pistons and connecting rods, just a couple of the vast improvements over the 708cc engine.
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