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    Dependability and simplicity is the reason you use relays to switch loads.
    Less heavy wire to run. Relays much more dependable at switching loads than most swiches.

    What would this guy be doing. Lol.
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    To each his own. Agreed low draw items seems a bit much to use a relay but relays are cheap and does make a nice system to just fuse half a dozen of them with a small multi fuse block. Then you only need some little 16 gauge on a small 5 amp fuse is all you need going to your switch bank and your devices get full voltage from short runs and less losses through switch that gets water in them and contacts corrode. Relays are better sealed and switch is still needed but just turning on tiny milli amp draw load of relay coil.


    You should see how many relays are factory on a YXZ. It's so the switches last and can be small ones.
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    I've used Concours relay/fuse blocks on pickups in the past. They really simplify and keep fuses and relays all in one spot. Any reason one of these wouldn't work for adding circuits on the Wolverine? I only need one for dome lights and one for rock lights but the bigger one would be cool for future add-ons.

    https://www.teamconcours.com/?page_i...egory=13963121

    https://www.teamconcours.com/?page_i...oat/p/65063093

    Oh, how do you access the switch panel in the dash?

    Thanks.

    Hells Bells! You guys probably know all about Concours (I'm new to Wolverine). After cruising the site I find all kinds of goodies for our Xs.

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    I found the 5 plug harness behind the battery compartment plate which is powered by the 20 amp ACC fuse. I ordered the pins to make the connection for my Garmen GPS harness. I love this forum!
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    In the majority of cases you don't need more than one or two relays for options as Daniel above has said for high powered device it makes sense. How many you'd have varies. I for one only use one currently for one light bar and the harness that came with it. Anything thats 7 or 8A can easily be controlled by a switch with gets it power via a HD relay implemented to trigger on with the ignition. This is so they also go off when off when you shutoff the machine!!

    Power to the relay in is to come from the battery + terminal or if a winch is installed the +ve terminal there which is always hot (no acid issue and wire clustering at the battery). I don't know how the gen 2 wires are switched, if by an oem installed relay or through the key switch contacts. If the latter I'd only use them to power the relay coils for devices. No high current at all.

    Thats just me anyway, oh and the feed to the relay(s) from the +ve source need an appropriate buss fuse. Eg 30A or 40A if available
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    I brought these pigtail for my 2020 X2 XTR i though i read some were that the pigtail harness on the machine was positive and negative but when i put my meter on the pigtail i get both leads as positive were is everybody picking up the negative a little confusing and are those pigtails fused any info would help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richiex2 View Post
    I brought these pigtail for my 2020 X2 XTR i though i read some were that the pigtail harness on the machine was positive and negative but when i put my meter on the pigtail i get both leads as positive were is everybody picking up the negative a little confusing and are those pigtails fused any info would help
    thanks
    Did you disassemble it? You have to do that in order to separate the wires.
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    No i thought they were plug and play so they have to be separated but when you put a meter on the machine side they are both positive coming out of the factory plug where is the negative side.If there is a wiring diagram i would appreciate it
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    They only plug in one way. Red is positive black is negative. I have had no issues using these to power relays for lights and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richiex2 View Post
    No i thought they were plug and play so they have to be separated but when you put a meter on the machine side they are both positive coming out of the factory plug where is the negative side.If there is a wiring diagram i would appreciate it
    Thanks KDT
    He is just saying the series tap has no accessible negative run out of it like it should.

    If you need red most the time nice to get a black to go with it too. He is just showing you have to open it up to get at the blacks.

    They should have ran 2 reds and 2 blacks out of it to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MassiveOverkill View Post
    I was going to start a new thread but figured it would be more appropriate to add to this one.

    All Yamaha's have a blank connector to keep dirt out of the additional accessory plug. Now if you have an older model, it may make sense to buy the splitter part but us X4 owners have plenty of plugs already (there are at least 6):



    You can take that blank plug and buy the pins necessary to convert it to a harness. The male connector (plastic part) uses female pins and the female connector uses male pins (I know pretty confusing). The blanks are FEmale, so we need male pins.

    You can get them here, which also has option for 2 different wire gauge sizes:

    Male https://www.corsa-technic.com/item.php?item_id=227 (these are what you need for the blanks already provided)

    You could also just Google Sumitomo p/n 1500-0105 (male).

    Don't forget to order seals as well: https://www.corsa-technic.com/item.php?item_id=351

    For under 10 bucks you could get the pin connectors for all your accessory plugs

    UPDATE: Received my parts from Corsa. I had ordered the wrong pins (female) and they exchanged them for the male pins as well as combined my shipping

    On the right you can see the blank plug which requires male pins:



    I ordered two wire gauge sizes:



    Simple to crimp on, make sure you bend over the tabs closest to the end as well or the pin won't engage the locking tab:



    Ready to go, I only needed the positive lead:



    If you're doing reverse lights you'll need the female sockets:

    https://www.corsa-technic.com/item.p...ategory_id=111

    I’ve got a question for you or anyone that knows. I went ahead and order those pins you mentioned so I can tap into the factory accessory plug to trigger the relay. I went with the nilight wiring harness with 5 pin rocker. Based on the wiring diagram, would I run the Positive wire from the factory plug to the white connector circled in yellow? Or would I disregard the two white wires and bring the positive straight into the terminal circled in blue? I am wanting key on power to the switch. Thanks.
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