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    Just realized my wheels are all the same offset...

    I just had a facepalm moment today.
    After getting my new mirror mounted, I was looking at my tires/wheels.
    I just got my new carnivores back in oct. I have not been on a riding trip yet.

    My previous tires were motomax. They were 10" wide in the front, 12" wide in the rear.
    This created the illusion of offset with the wheels.
    I just realized today that the wheels are the same. Now that I am running 10" wide carnivores all the way around, it is obvious. I will let you guys see so you can laugh at me.

    First, can you tell with these pics?
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    These two pics are of the same wheels, different tires :
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    I feel kindof dumb.
    I am also happy that they are all the same. That means I can rotate.
    But, I really didn't want to run spacers.
    I am just surprised that the motomax tires did not rub the shocks in the back.
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    I think I got a measurement of 58 1/2" wide in the rear, and 61 1/2" wide in the front. That was from tire lug to tire lug, so that is not scientific. I guess I need to go out and make 100% sure what the width is.
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    Sorry that the last pic is sideways. It is not that way on my pc. Not sure why it turned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astainback View Post
    I just had a facepalm moment today.
    After getting my new mirror mounted, I was looking at my tires/wheels.
    I just got my new carnivores back in oct. I have not been on a riding trip yet.

    My previous tires were motomax. They were 10" wide in the front, 12" wide in the rear.
    This created the illusion of offset with the wheels.
    I just realized today that the wheels are the same. Now that I am running 10" wide carnivores all the way around, it is obvious. I will let you guys see so you can laugh at me.

    First, can you tell with these pics?
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Size:  3.28 MB
    Name:  IMG_20191018_224334.jpg
Views: 23
Size:  3.55 MB
    Name:  IMG_20191018_224344.jpg
Views: 23
Size:  3.23 MB
    Name:  IMG_20191018_224359.jpg
Views: 23
Size:  3.81 MB

    These two pics are of the same wheels, different tires :
    Name:  IMG_20190709_113256(1).jpg
Views: 23
Size:  3.74 MB
    Name:  IMG_20190709_113256.jpg
Views: 24
Size:  312.8 KB

    I feel kindof dumb.
    I am also happy that they are all the same. That means I can rotate.
    But, I really didn't want to run spacers.
    I am just surprised that the motomax tires did not rub the shocks in the back.
    Look at this pic :
    Name:  IMG_20190806_180144.jpg
Views: 22
Size:  5.14 MB

    I think I got a measurement of 58 1/2" wide in the rear, and 61 1/2" wide in the front. That was from tire lug to tire lug, so that is not scientific. I guess I need to go out and make 100% sure what the width is.
    I have the same tires and wheels (msa m25 4+3 10mm), many do as well. Theres no issue NOT running spacers. I have for a month or better now.

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    I've never seen an explanation for why I'd want spacers other than aesthetics.
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    Having front to rear offset means that the rear is in a slightly different path and in some media like mud or snow it can gain you a little traction as opposed to staying in what is already packed down or smooth.
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    I've always thought the front is always wider so when going thru a tight spot, if the front makes it thru the rear will also. Also wider for more stability.
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    I see a lot of ATV's with long travel kits on the front which makes the front a lot wider.
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    I'd get spacers for the rear wheels. It would bug me that the front was wider, but like everyone else said, there's no functional issue with leaving it as is.
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    Front being wider is supposed to help turning radius and front push. Where it is a noticeable amount in our application I'm not sure. I run spacers on rear of mine. I figure I like rolling over less than backing up so I'll give up any turning radius gain for some more stability.
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    I have run spacers on ALL of my SxS's. I also run spacers on both of my Jeeps with 35's on them. On a couple of occasions, the spacers have cost me, or broke something, but on 100's of occasions, they have saved my butt!! I will take spacers every time! In my experience, if you blame a spacer for a breakage or failure, you can normally find that the root cause is really a bad decision. Just my opinion.


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